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Episode 27: David & The Star People – Part 2<\/strong><\/p><\/h3><\/div>

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Last episode I briefly went over some definitions related to this subject and I introduced my guest for these two episodes. David Montgomery. He shared some of his experiences with Star People. Some of his experiences that he remembers. About going underground, and speaking with groups of diverse species of Star People. He talked about the androgynous being whose facial features he never saw, who met him at the door to the underground chamber where he spoke with these beings. He talked about beings around his bed at home.<\/p>\n

One thing that most experiencers have a shared knowledge of, is changes that are coming to our planet. Earth Changes. Of the need to take care of our planet and look after her. This is something that is impressed on all of us. Deeply impressed. David is no exception to this.\u00a0 Today we continue our conversation, and David also talks about his Men-In-Black experiences as well. Are you ready? Then let\u2019s recommence our journey into this part of the shadowlands<\/p>\n

David & The Star People – Part 2
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What caught my attention about your post, in MUFON, in the MUFON group, was that you had the Men-In-Black experiences. And I had literally just finished voicing an episode on the Men-In-Black, and uploaded it waiting to be played this season.\u00a0 So your post caught my attention. Can you tell me a little bit about those experiences and how they came about?\u00a0 You know, the backstory?<\/p>\n

Yeah. I\u2019ve been trying to figure out like. OK why, why are they here? And you know, to be honest, I don\u2019t have like a solid answer. Other than, perhaps like you and many others, they recognize that we do\u2026. We are in contact with other beings. Maybe periodically being taken. Perhaps there is a program where they\u2019re really watching people like us. Yeah, you know? Who knows? Maybe they have a way of knowing who is being taken? Maybe some of those abductions are not actually off planet? Maybe it\u2019s the government themselves? So maybe they know directly who they\u2019re dealing with. So yeah, so as to the why? That\u2019s still a question\u2026. I don\u2019t know.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

So the first one. The first one was about ten years ago. I was with\u2026. And it happened in broad daylight. My two friends and I were at a pretty, a popular mall here in the city. And this one entrance, there\u2019s a couple of restaurants very, very close by. And it wasn\u2019t super busy, but there were a number of people around. And we all met there and we were going to go in\u2026. And I don\u2019t remember why we were there, or if we were just \u2013 you know? We hadn\u2019t seen each other, so we decided that as a meeting place.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

And we stopped outside of the entrance because\u2026. And I know in the email I said a busker, to make it easier. But it was actually a lady that was standing out there with a big snake. Like a boa constrictor snake. And she was like, letting people pet it and she says she was just trying to help people you know? Overcome their fear of snakes. So we were just kind of watching her and I was going up and I was playing with the snake. And somewhere while this was happening. I just had this inclination to look over my right shoulder. And about twenty-five, thirty feet away\u2026. So against the wall of one of these restaurants was a wooden bench that you could go sit on, right against the wall. And I looked over and my eyes immediately just stopped on him.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

There was this thin man, all in a black suit, black bowler hat and he was sitting at the far left hand side of the bench. And he had a magazine in front of him\u2026. Like you would imagine a man in black, with a paper in front of his face. I don\u2019t think it was a paper. It was a magazine that he had. And he had it up so I couldn\u2019t see his face. However, as soon as I looked at him he lowered it. He lowered the magazine and we made eye contact.\u00a0 And It was a very odd experience, \u2018cause, I remember this\u2026. I just felt this eww, like I didn\u2019t\u2026. You know when you have that, there\u2019s an unconscious connection that you make with them. And it was like oh\u2026. No, oh I don\u2019t want to connect with this person.\u00a0<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

And we just kind of held the gaze for about three seconds. And then I kind of\u2026. I swung my head back around. He [friend] went who is that guy? Like is that ever? And then he did kind of comment, he looks like a Men-in-Black! He\u2019s dressed to the T.\u00a0 The pale skin, everything. And I thought this is really weird, so I nudged my friend Troy and said, \u201cHey Troy just look over your shoulder.\u201d And he goes, \u201dI know. I saw him. He\u2019s been watching us for a while.\u201d And he kind of confirmed, like yeah, he saw this guy too. And it was shortly therein, that we decided ok let\u2019s, let\u2019s head inside to the Mall. And just before we started heading into the doors, I took a glance back and he was gone!<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Oh? Just like that?<\/p>\n

So that was\u2026. Yeah, just like that! That was the first experience of seeing one. So you know\u2026. Whether he was there for me? For us? For somebody else? I don\u2019t know. The fact that he knew exactly when I looked at him and there was that direct eye contact between us. Yeah. Who knows?<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

And the intimidation factor you felt from him?<\/p>\n

Yeah, it wasn\u2019t so much intimidation like that projection of fear \u2013 like the second one we\u2019ll talk about. But just the feeling of\u2026. Yeah this isn\u2019t someone who I really want to, you know, connect with. You know, there was just something icky about his energy. It didn\u2019t feel right<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

That\u2019s exactly how I felt too, with my Men-in-Black experience. Mine happened\u2026. I was five or six \u2013\u00a0 not sure what age I was? Between 4 and 6 anyway. And this classic shaped UFO came down over my house at about ten o\u2019clock in the morning on a Friday, workday. We lived in an industrial area, opposite a factory that made ice-cream, and this was back in the early 60\u2019s. So, they would put they would clean out the freezers once a week and put the ice out in the street to melt. Which of course, they could never get away with these days. But back then it was just what they did. And, the guys were all out there having their cup of tea and that\u2019s how I know it was morning tea time. Which is always about 10 am, in New Zealand.<\/p>\n

And suddenly there was this whirring loud noise that was really high pitched and hurt my ears. And, there was an air pressure change. I didn\u2019t know what was going on. I just covered my ears and looked over at the people in the factory to see if they could hear it, and everybody was like this with hands over ears. Some were pointing up at the sky. And I looked up and there was this classic, saucer shaped UFO, descending slowly, directly, over the roof of my home.<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t know how high above the roof it was, and it seemed to be there for a while, and then whoosh! It was gone. But actually what happened was, there was obviously missing time because, I remembered much later in life, that a blue beam of light came down and took me on the ship. I had an experience with the beings and then the next day, early in the morning there was a knock on the door. And as kids, it was a really exciting thing to run and open the door. My sisters and I would all fight about who was going to go and open the door. We would all rush to be the first one. So it was me. And I opened the door.<\/p>\n

There standing at the door were two Men-in-Black. And there was a third one, at the car, at the gate, which was about, only about like ten feet from the front of the house. So it was quite close. It was a car with a running board. So it was quite posh. And the third guy was standing with his foot on the running board. One was standing on the doorstep. The other was to the side facing\u2026. One man was like this; the other guy was on his side like that, behind him. And my Mum came to the door and she was terrified of them. She pulled me behind her. And you could feel they had a nasty energy. That was the point of me telling you this. Yeah, that energy was really nasty.<\/p>\n

My Mum pulled me behind her and I could feel her hand shaking. She was that scared and intimidated.\u00a0 She was only in her twenties, so it would have been really scary for her, and intimidating. To have these richly dressed men, with their Fedora hats, sunglasses, and the attitude, and energy. And, they kept saying to Mum, you won\u2019t remember. You won\u2019t remember. This never happened. You won\u2019t talk about this\u2026. They basically intimidated her.<\/p>\n

And I heard one guy say; \u201cWhat about the kid?\u201d, and the other guy said; \u201cOh, she\u2019s too young. She won\u2019t remember.\u201d So I made it a point to remember and I said to myself, there\u2019s no way I\u2019m going to forget this. I\u2019m going to hold this memory. And I think because they said you\u2019re not allowed to talk about it. You can\u2019t talk about it. I\u2019ve made a point all my life to talk about it. Because that\u2019s just who I am, you know? And I was a very determined kid. So Mum forgot. It wasn\u2019t until I went to live in the states in two thousand and something? I was visiting my Mum before I left and we were talking about our UFO experiences, because my whole life, my family has had UFO experiences. And quite often they follow genealogical lines. So it\u2019s highly likely that other family members of yours have had experiences as well.<\/p>\n

I\u2019m sure they have. Yeah. I\u2019m sure they have. Yeah<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

So it was just about that intimidation factor that comes off of them. That yucky horrible, nasty feeling. Yup.<\/p>\n

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And looking back on that first encounter, it\u2019s\u2026. It was interesting, because, there was nobody paying him any attention. I mean he looked like he was dressed right out of the forties!\u00a0 But nobody paid him any attentions. Like he wasn\u2019t there. It was so interesting \u2026.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Yeah, yeah, yeah\u2026. And the lady I mentioned earlier, Suzi, she had her own Men-in-Black encounter. But, he wasn\u2019t dressed in a suit, and he was sitting in the front of the car that they got into. The woman that was driving the car, didn\u2019t acknowledge this person. Didn\u2019t speak to him at all. It was like she wasn\u2019t even aware he was there. Yeah. But he turned around and spoke to them. He wasn\u2019t in a suit, but he was in\u2026. ah was it Arizona? Some desert state, and he was dressed really warmly for being where he was. They were over there at a UFO conference. But, he had the classic features. The pale, pale skin. Sparse hair, lack of facial hair \u2013 you know? All those. He got out of the car and walked in the building they were parked outside of and just disappeared.<\/p>\n

They ran after him, because they wanted clarification of what he had said to them. The building was an open place office, car rental place. With only toilets off the main room. So they both searched the toilets. He wasn\u2019t there. There was no other public exit. He simply had vanished, and enquiring at the desk, no one had seen him enter the building. One has to wonder if they have technology that can make them appear and disappear? Or, they are inter-dimensional beings of some description?<\/p>\n

Well that\u2019s kind of a good Segway into my second experience. Because, I totally believe they do. Yeah, totally believe it. There was a period after that first encounter with that man in black, where about a year, a year and a half afterwards, I went through a period of about, a good two weeks. Where I was convinced I was being followed. And I would kind of check in with myself like\u2026what? Are you paranoid? It was like no! That\u2019s my intuition kicking in. It\u2019s like, I\u2019m being follow\u2026. Somebody\u2019s watching! And it went on for about a week and a half, two weeks. And I never saw. I couldn\u2019t actually catch a glimpse, but I just knew that there were eyes on me. And, and then it went away. It\u2026. It happened one other time. A couple of years after that, before the second, second experience.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

I certainly do know that there are some of us, and Suzi had the same experience, where \u2013 certainly when I first started doing my work, I had experiences the same. Where there was a white van \u2026. Ah, I can\u2019t remember if it was a van or a Ute\u2026. Some sort of white vehicle parked outside of my house with men in it. And a friend went and approached them, because, she saw them watching my house, and had seen that they had in fact been following me. I was unaware of them, but, just like you, felt like I was being watched. I hadn\u2019t told her about it. She went over to see who they were. As she approached the car, to confront them, they wound the windows up. And Suzy had the same experience, but her neighbours saw a white vehicle parked outside her home with men in it. They went to approach them. They also wound the windows up and drove off.<\/p>\n

Yeah, interesting hey. You know, you gotta wonder, I mean these encounters haven\u2019t given me any answers. They\u2019ve just raised more questions. You\u2019ve gotta wonder, well what are they doing? Are they just observing? Are they there for some other specific reason? Are they just keeping tabs on certain people? I\u2026. I don\u2019t know. I don\u2019t know.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Right, right. My gut feeling tells me they keep tabs on certain experiencers. Not all of them, just certain ones. And maybe it\u2019s because of the work we do\u2026. Or the role that\u2026. Or the task that our people have assigned us, or whatever. You know?<\/p>\n

Yes, yeah. No, I agree with that<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

But that\u2019s my gut feeling. Because, I know that I have specific work that I do. As you do.<\/p>\n

Yeah. Absolutely. I mean it is\u2026. I do. This is the part that you, we haven\u2019t really talked about though. Is I do a lot of energy work. For twenty years now, I\u2019ve been bringing in new levels of consciousness for people. Helping them open up and wake up essentially. So yeah, and right there it\u2019s its like\u2026. It\u2019s probably is like a light bulb over mine, yours, and other\u2019s heads. Where they probably don\u2019t like people like us doing what we\u2019re doing.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

No, no! Of course they don\u2019t. Now see, we\u2019re doing the same sort of thing, but in a different way. And part of my work is waking people as well. Like letting Star-seeds know who they are. What they are. And that it\u2019s time for them to wake up. That kind of thing. So we\u2019re doing the same sort of work, but from a different angle.<\/p>\n

Different perspective, it\u2019s the same work. Yeah. And there\u2019s lots of us. Lots of us doing it.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Yeah, lots of us.<\/p>\n

You know, we all have our own unique abilities and talents. That we have awoken to, or that people are beginning to awaken to. But we\u2019re all part of the same team, you know? We have the same goal in mind.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Absolutely. And of course those that currently control this ah reality that we\u2019re currently knowing of, aren\u2019t wanting people to wake up.<\/p>\n

No! No! Definitely not.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

I\u2019m really getting sidetracked here. Ok, so tell me about your second Men-in-Black experience?<\/p>\n

Ok. So this one is\u2026. I\u2019ll have to Segway up to this one, because it\u2019s\u2026. Because it was just so bizarre. It was very, very different to the first encounter. It was much more personal and directed. And they were right in my room. So the way it happened \u2013\u00a0 and I also talked about them having access to portal technology. Which I\u2019m convinced, because, I saw it.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Maybe seven years ago? Six years ago? Again in the middle of the night\u2026. And I woke up just with this really heavy feeling. I could just\u2026. I don\u2019t know if it was that feeling that woke me up, but I just, I woke up and I lay there. And it as oh, just this ick energy. This heavy feeling. And then, then this fear started rolling in. And the fear was being projected \u2013 I\u2019ve learned, it\u2019s from them. They\u2019re able to actually project fear. They can project it onto people and they can project it into areas, so, like a large area. And as I was lying there in bed, and just kind of feeling this\u2026. Like, what is this energy? Opposite the end of my bed against the wall, which was about six feet away from my bed. I started seeing this light emerge. Right in the middle of my wall.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

And this g\u2026. All I can call it is a portal. This great big portal, ah energetic portal opened up and it was a good, six or seven feet in diameter. And in walks, from that portal three Men-in-Black. Dressed exactly like the ones I saw, the first one I saw. Ah black suits, white shirts, black tie, hats and gla\u2026. They\u2019re all wearing sunglasses. Dark, dark glasses. Even though it was dark.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

But there was a light that was being emitted from this portal, that I could now see my room. So the other thing that I should add is that when this heavy feeling came in. I couldn\u2019t move my body! My body was immobile. It\u2019s like if I wanted to get\u2026. To move\u2026. It was\u2026. I couldn\u2019t. I was not able to move. All I could do was kind of tilt my head to the side and up to kind of see what was happening.\u00a0 So I was immobile, and\u2026. And just this incredible feeling of fear. And I think they really intentionally use that to disable people, to put you in a disadvantage. So they\u2019re able to do what they need to do.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

And\u2026. This portal opens and out walks three of these men. One of them, stayed at the entrance of the portal. And he had one foot, his right foot in the portal \u2013 like inside my wall. And his left foot was on my carpet. It\u2019s like he was keeping it open. That was the kind of \u2026. I got the sense that he was there holding this open. The other two walking into my room and started riffling through everything. And I was laying there. I\u2019ve just got my head tilted up going like what is going on, like should I\u2026. Should I do anything? I can\u2019t move. It\u2019s like, what are they doing? And they started going through my drawers, moving clothes. They were looking under my drawer, like they were looking\u2026. They were there for something specific and they were going through, like everything!<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

In the meantime, I\u2019m like\u2026. I\u2019m immobile and there\u2019s this part of me that was like, ok I need to get up and do something, like\u2026. It was like I couldn\u2019t move my body, so all I could do was observe. So I\u2019m like, ok be quiet and just observe what\u2019s going on. And they were in my room about three minutes. Again, just kind of\u2026. They just looked everywhere. They did not look at me once. They didn\u2019t even acknowledge that I was there\u2026. They just came in and started going through stuff and then after about three minutes they both walked back to the portal. They got in and then the man that was kind of straddling it walked in behind them and then it closed! And then my room went dark again.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

And I laid there, probably a good fifteen \u2013 twenty minutes. I was kind of like in this surreal shock. Like what in the world just happened? Like you question, like did I just see that? Like, am I dreaming? No! I\u2019m awake! Like this actually happened. And it took a while for the energy of that fear to kind of start dissipating. It didn\u2019t leave right away. It took\u2026. It like, had to wear off. And when I was able to get up again, fifteen \u2013 twenty minutes later, I like turned on my light and started like, ok what are they looking for? And I had no idea. Like, I couldn\u2019t see anything that was missing. The odds\u2026. Other than some overturned clothes and stuff, every\u2026. Like they\u2026. Every draw they opened was put back! So, that was a very, very interesting encounter.\u00a0\u00a0<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

And I think just recently I\u2019m putting together, maybe the whole Alien technology thing, and their sudden appearance into my room looking for something specific. And I could tell they were looking for something specific. Like they weren\u2019t just oh what\u2019s this? Oh a cell phone\u2026. They were like\u2026. No. I could tell it. I could feel it, they had a target in mind. Whether they found what they were looking for? I don\u2019t know. Like, I couldn\u2019t tell. They just abruptly kind of like\u2026. OK, let\u2019s go! And then they were gone.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Wow\u2026. And how did that leave you feeling?<\/p>\n

Really kind of\u2026. Well, raw. Vulnerable. You know, this wasn\u2019t just a look across a crowded place and see one on a bench. This was they came in my room. Which means they know who I am. They were there for something specific. So this\u2026. This moved from a public encounter to something much, much more personal. So yeah, it kind of brought up lots of different feelings and that regards too. OK, what\u2019s going on here? Like, why are they involved in my life in this capacity? What are they looking for? What are they doing? You know, if this is happening what I\u2019m conscious of, what\u2019s happening that I\u2019m not conscious of?<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

That\u2019s a good question. That\u2019s a really good question. And it must have made you feel quite violated as well.<\/p>\n

Yeah! Absolutely! Yeah yeah, for sure!<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

That\u2019s a horrible feeling. And\u2026. And have you found since then that you\u2019ve been ah, more conscious of your safety?<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t know if I would say more conscious of my safety. I think just generally more aware.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Yeah, yeah that\u2019s probably better wording<\/p>\n

I mean, I\u2019ve always had that kind of like\u2026. I think all of us have that. Kind of like that sixth sense um\u2026. You know, we know if we\u2019re being followed. We know\u2026. We know if something is going to happen. You know? That kind of sense. I think if anything, it heightened that. To I need to bring this to me a little more closely. I need to pay attention. You know, is there a van on the street? You know, am I being followed? That kind of thing. Yeah.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

And probably I would say at this stage of how ah things are in this world. That\u2019s probably not a bad thing.<\/p>\n

Yeah. That\u2019s true.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

That\u2019s probably not a bad thing at this stage. Wow that\u2019s pretty ah\u2026. That would make you feel very unsettled, I have no doubt.<\/p>\n

Well yeah, and a good part of the unsettled feeling is, they don\u2019t need to knock on your door. These\u2026. This was portal technology.\u00a0 And they just barged in\u2026. And it was like \u2013 pardon my French \u2013 it was like, what the hell? Like there wasn\u2019t\u2026. A wall\u2019s not going to stop them. You know? They just came through. And it was like wow, where\u2019s that technology coming from?<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Yeah, yeah\u2026. And I actually recall that when I did my Men-In-Black episode, there was one chap who had an experience. An older guy. And it was earlier on. I can\u2019t remember what years it was, but he said the guy walked down his steps, turned the corner and disappeared into some light!\u00a0 He didn\u2019t see the portal. He just saw the light. So I would say that\u2026. And very often they just do disappear. Just like that!<\/p>\n

Yep, yah, and it makes sense where they\u2019re able to be at certain places, very quickly.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Right. Even Dan Ackroyd. Dan Ackroyd, do you know him?\u00a0 The actor? From Ghostbusters\u2026. He had a Men-in-black experience. Yeah. He was working on a television series for HBO I think it was. And I can\u2019t remember the name of it offhand, but he had already produced four or five episodes of the series and he was really delving into this whole area. And he\u2019d just finished two interviews\u2026. Oh no! He\u2019d finished one interview and he was going to interview someone else for that same episode. And he went outside, in New York city, on the streets to have a smoke. And he saw a car parked across the road. And at that moment, Brittney Spears phoned him and he saw the car. He saw this big\u2026. He said a massive guy got out. Really pale. Typical Men-In-Black looking. And he said this man gave him the most horrible look. Like a really nasty eye to eye contact<\/p>\n

And he turned \u2026. He like\u2026. He said he looked at him, turned to his phone to speak to Britney, the car and the man had disappeared. Completely disappeared! Just like that!\u00a0 And there\u2019s, he said, there\u2019s no way it could have driven off, he would have seen it go past. And no way it could have u-turned. It would have taken time for the car to U-turn and to have moved away.\u00a0 And he would have seen it. It was just as quick as that! And then, he went back inside the studio. Two hours later he got the message that the show had been cancelled. No reason why was given. And they were not to do any more filming. Yeah so\u2026. And he was quite adamant about what he saw, which was very interesting.<\/p>\n

That is so interesting. Yeah, wow.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

It\u2019s just the fact that he disappeared on him. Just like that! You know?<\/p>\n

Just like that! Hm hmm. Yeah.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

And that\u2019s not the first time I\u2019ve heard of that either. But, the first time that I\u2019ve heard of a high-profile person talking about that.<\/p>\n

They probably don\u2019t see us as different from anybody else<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Oh no! Of course not. Of course not<\/p>\n

No. I always wonder if there\u2019s different levels of you know, Men-In-Black. Different layers. They\u2019re not all playing the same role.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

I would say so.<\/p>\n

Because you know somebody\u2026. I remember reading a couple of years ago, somebody had an encounter and they were at their door. And one of the first things that I have read and this person said it too\u2026. Is one of the first things they\u2019ll ask is can we come in? Can we come in? And it\u2019s essentially a dominance thing, because, once they enter your house they basically are entering your space, and they now have control over your space. That\u2019s why they want in your house. But it\u2019s almost like they have to ask you for it. They have to ask permission for you to invite them in. And like this second episode with mine, there was no invitation. They just showed up! It was almost as if there was a different team that maybe does these portal jumps, or these portal, these portal moves and stuff, yeah, as opposed to the ones who actually go to the doors\u2026 I dunno, it\u2019s just a gas. Just pondering.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Right. And actually you just triggered something for me when you were saying that, because, I\u2026. I had completely forgotten this about my experience. But, they did ask Mum if they could come inside. And Mum refused to let then in, because of the feeling, you know? That she got off of them. Oh wow, that\u2019s really interesting. Funny how things come back, yeah.<\/p>\n

Yeah yeah. There\u2019s something to that. There\u2019s definitely something to that, about them wanting to gain access to your space.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Yeah, yeah. There\u2019s something to that. There\u2019s definitely something to that. Obviously, we\u2019re both doing the roles that we agreed to at this point in time. I know that for me I guess, part of my work is to speak out and bring things out into the public. It\u2019s taken about a year and a bit for me to do this podcast, I had a feeling I should do it, not long after I started the group actually, but I just ignored it. I thought oh well who\u2019s going to listen to me anyway? You know? What I have to say isn\u2019t that important. And then, so I discarded the thought and it came back again, I ignored it. And then my group members started saying to me Marianne why don\u2019t you start a podcast? You\u2019d be really good\u2026. Why don\u2019t you? Until finally I said, OK guys, I got the message<\/p>\n

I got it!<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

So I did a whole season that\u2019s just finished. I felt I needed to build up a little bit of credibility with my audience before I started introducing what I call my bread and butter subjects.<\/p>\n

Yeah yeah yeah awesome. Well, I\u2019m glad you did. I\u2019m glad you listened to that and started following you know that voice and that impulse to get out there and start doing what you\u2019re doing<\/em>.<\/span><\/p>\n

Well, I always have, but it\u2019s been limited people I\u2019m reaching, but with this\u2026. Only twenty-five percent of my audience is in New Zealand. I think thirty something percent is in the states regions and the rest is in countries world wide. So the people this message is supposed to get to, will get it.<\/p>\n

Yeah that\u2019s awesome. Wonderful!<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

So for you\u2026. I\u2019m assuming your contacts are still ongoing? Or has there been a bit of a lull for a bit, for you?<\/p>\n

The contacts that I remember\u2026. It\u2019s been a long time.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Same thing<\/p>\n

Yeah, it\u2019s been a long \u2026. Doesn\u2019t mean that they\u2019re not happening. I\u2019m just not aware, if it is happening. These, what I was describing as these really vivid dreams what\u2019s happening. Those seem to be ongoing I probably have about one a month. And it\u2019s like I\u2019m on a\u2026. I\u2019m on a, I\u2019m doing something specific. Like, I\u2019m on a mission. I have a mission to complete.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

I was just going to say to you, yeah<\/p>\n

Yeah. But as far as the actual contact\u2026. No, on a physical level I can\u2019t\u2026. It\u2019s been a long, long, long time.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Decades? Yeah. Same for me as well. On that level, yes it\u2019s been decades\u2026. But in fact, in January this year, I actually went for a walk up into a bush area here in New Zealand. Because, I was feeling really despondent. And I was really missing my contacts, you know? My conscious contacts. It\u2019s like being home. And I was verbally saying whilst I was isolated in the bush. Look you guys, I\u2019m doing everything I know I\u2019m supposed to be doing and I feel like I\u2019ve been dumped, forgotten about. I feel like you know? Where are you guys?\u00a0 What\u2019s happened you know? And I said, I need you to show me that you\u2019re still here and you\u2019re still relevant in my life and that I\u2019m still on the right path. And I was really upset. Not a half an hour later I was driving home. Something in the skies caught my eyes. It was ten o\u2019clock in the morning. New year\u2019s day. Big white ship flew across the, horizontally across the sky, and then went up vertically like that!.\u00a0 And I was ok, thank you. That\u2019s all I needed.<\/p>\n

All you needed<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

All I needed<\/p>\n

Yeah certainly don\u2019t think that just because we may think it\u2019s not happening that there isn\u2019t things happening.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Well they did tell me<\/p>\n

Yeah. It\u2019s perhaps happening on a different level than\u2026. Maybe we don\u2019t need to understand right n<\/span>ow.<\/em><\/p>\n

Oh absolutely it is. And I know this! On a level I know this. It\u2019s on the human level I sometimes struggle. But, but, on the soul level I absolutely understand this. And in fact they said to me, my contact said to me back in the eighties, when I last had contact; \u201cDon\u2019t feel we\u2019ve dropped you like a hot potato.\u201d\u00a0 They like using human Human terminology\u2026 what\u2019s the words? Saying, Don\u2019t think we\u2019ve dropped you like a hot potato. But we\u2019re going to be really busy. We\u2019ve got lots of stuff we have to do, behind the scenes So you may feel isolated.\u201d And boy did I what! So I tend to feel that things are coming to a head very rapidly. And I suspect you probably have that feeling as well.<\/p>\n

Yeah. Yeah I do. There\u2019s\u2026. You know it feels like things are ramping up<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Yeah, very, very much<\/p>\n

Behind the scenes, it\u2019s like the oven\u2019s heating up before the food goes in. It\u2019s like ok, it\u2019s getting hotter, it\u2019s getting hotter, it\u2019s getting hotter. It\u2019s almost you can tune in and you can feel Like there\u2019s stuff happening. We might not be able to pin-point it. We might not be able to describe what\u2019s happening. But you know, we\u2019re all connected with each other and the Earth. And all you have to do is kind of tune in and you\u2019re like\u2026. Yeah there\u2019s lots going on here.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Absolutely<\/p>\n

And whether it\u2019s going to come to some kind of a head, or how that\u2019s going to play out I don\u2019t fully know. I know of feel there\u2019s a couple of different options still.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

What do you feel the options are?<\/p>\n

I think one of the options is we go through a quite a large earth shift. There\u2019s going to be There\u2019s going to be some Earth changes.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Major Earth changes<\/p>\n

Yeah and I also thing something may be happening with the sun\u2026. Well there is something happening with the sun.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

There definitely is\u2026.<\/p>\n

The sun has been changing especially the past four or five years like it\u2019s\u2026.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Well, it\u2019s definitely not yellow like it used to be. That\u2019s for real<\/p>\n

No. Nope. I remember two years ago, I was, I had to be outside in the sun, all the time. It\u2019s like I just needed to be in it. And that\u2019s when I started going boy there\u2019s\u2026. The Sun\u2019s going through a shift. It has to do with our placement and movement through the cosmos? Who knows? But there\u2019s some people suggesting that there\u2019s going to be quite a good solar flare coming that could change a lot of things for us.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Yeah, I\u2019ve heard that too. I\u2019ve heard that from different sources. Certainly the Earth changes are a big one. And I\u2019ve been aware of that \u2026. That\u2019s what they were talking about, when they were talking about holding the Earth. And I knew that once we hit that tipping point that things would escalate from there, last January. And absolutely they have. Since then earthquakes have markedly increase in both number and size. Volcanic eruptions. Things that signify Earth movement have absolutely ramped up. And so yeah\u2026.<\/p>\n

And a lot of this Earth movement and earthquakes can be directly related to the sun\u2026.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Hmm. Absolutely. Yes.<\/p>\n

Sun flares, sun spots, solar activity<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Solar hmmm<\/p>\n

And I mean, they know this. They\u2019ve put these two together that when the sun is going it\u2019s thing, it affects us on a tectonic level.\u00a0 It affects the earth tectonically.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Well of course. Because these planets are living beings. They\u2019re living entities, their energies interact constantly like our energies interact like we all interact. So what affects one, is going to affect the other.<\/p>\n

Absolutely<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Yeah, so\u2026. But, you and I know this anyway, but it may be something new for the listeners. I\u2019m just trying to think if there\u2019s anything else I need to ask? Is there anything, any message that you might like to pass to people that you think is relevant for them? That might help them? That might help anybody who\u2019s going through the same thing?<\/p>\n

Well, I definitely think finding a community like what you\u2019ve created \u2026. You know, other FB communities like MUFON, where you know\u2026. And I know for almost everybody that sense of safety. Is this is a safe place? Because, we all know how easy it is for people to just start ridiculing and judging. These people that have never left their laptop in their basement. Saying no, that\u2019s not real, because, they have nothing better to do. You know, it\u2019s really about honouring you know, your experience.\u00a0 And what you are going through, or have gone through. And you know, if you truly do want to reach out and connect there are people. There are groups. That you can definitely do that with. If that\u2019s the case. A lot of people that don\u2019t chose to share and they just keep it to themselves or to just very close people in their circle. And you know?\u00a0 That\u2019s ok too. There\u2019s no right or wrong<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Absolutely.<\/p>\n

So yeah\u2026. It\u2019s finding that safety, because, you know the last thing that people need is\u2026. You know it takes a lot of courage to come up and say hey I\u2019m going to come out with something that\u2019s really weird, you know I saw this ship\u2026. And blah, blah, blah\u2026.\u00a0 You know it takes a lot of courage to come out and the last thing those people need is to be shot down by ignorance. Yeah so you know just making sure that you find the right people that are open and willing to listen and support you and yeah, be there.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Yeah, that\u2019s absolutely right. So that\u2019s absolutely good advice and pretty much what Suzy said the other day as well. It was pretty much the same thing. Find supportive people. Be careful who you choose to speak to because not everybody\u2019s what they appear to be\u2026.<\/p>\n

No it\u2019s not. Even on these sites where anybody can join the site. And you never know who\u2019s there so\u2026. You know if you don\u2019t mind putting it out there and people saying this or that, doesn\u2019t bother you, then yep shake it off. It doesn\u2019t matter. But for some people it does matter so yeah.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

I agree. And in my group Walking the Shadowlands on FB. I have really strict rules. I\u2019m all about the safety of my members. I\u2019m all about confidentiality. I\u2019m all about letting them know that it\u2019s a safe place where, even if we don\u2019t agree and that\u2019s ok, we respect one an others views.<\/p>\n

Yeah. Awesome<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

And, I\u2019m really, really strict about that, because it\u2019s important for people to be able to feel safe, to express what they need to express. Whatever it\u2019s about. It doesn\u2019t matter.<\/p>\n

Yeah exactly. And I really hope that very soon we are able to reach that level of awareness and consciousness where someone can disagree and not have to shoot somebody down to make them feel better. They can just go wow that sounds like a really neat experience. That\u2019s not in the realm of my belief system, but you know\u2026. And just leave it. And just leave it as that. They don\u2019t have to say no, that\u2019s not real. That didn\u2019t happen.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Yeah yeah absolutely. Yeah I agree with you. Wouldn\u2019t that be lovely. And in the meantime we\u2019ve got lots of exciting things to look forward to. Exciting changes coming up and I\u2019ve no doubt, because I know our teams are absolutely busy behind the scenes. Very, very busy and I know that when I try to tune into them, I just get this, this ah, sense of controlled chaos. For want of a better word\u2026 You know?<\/p>\n

Yeah. There\u2019s a lot of juggling going on behind the scenes right now.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

I agree with that and I\u2026. I\u2019m really grateful to you David for coming forward and sharing your experiences like this because it\u2019s a very brave thing to do. To speak out in public. It doesn\u2019t matter where in the world you are.\u00a0 And I actually feel that more of us are going to come out and speak up. I feel it is the right time to do so, or I wouldn\u2019t be doing this now, if it wasn\u2019t the right time.<\/p>\n

Yes, exactly. And you know, getting the support that you\u2019re getting.\u00a0\u00a0<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Yeah, yeah, yeah\u2026. Which is really amazing and like you came out of the blue out of nowhere. So yeah, it\u2019s the right thing.\u00a0 Do you have anything else to add? Any questions we haven\u2019t covered? Anything you feel we need to bring out?<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t think so Marianne. I think you\u2019ve covered pretty well everything. Yeah.\u00a0 A lot of great questions and a lot of good topics we covered today. There\u2019s lots of us that are here doing similar work. So yeah\u2026. And you\u2019re right, there\u2019s a shared commonality we can recognize when we see each other.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Yes, absolutely. Thank you so very, very much for your time today David<\/p>\n

You\u2019re so welcome. Thank you so much for reaching out and offering to connect like this\u2026. It\u2019s been wonderful. And thank you for you know, kind of holding this platform for me to share these weird, wacky and fun experiences.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

It\u2019s awesome. And I\u2019m so glad that we can do this. Because, I know that, you know, some people are going to go phewww! And some people are going to go oh my god I absolutely resonate with this. I absolutely understand what they\u2019re saying!<\/p>\n

Yes, it\u2019s true. It\u2019s true. So if it helps, even one person in some way, then that\u2019s our jobs done! It\u2019s great!<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

It is. Thanks heaps David<\/p>\n

Thank you too.. Bye.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Bye.<\/p>\n<\/div>

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This has been a very interesting conversation for me and hopefully for you all listening. It was very validating for both of us, to know that we had the same sort of experiences. It actually is not that often I speak with experiencers. Certainly not ones living in the other hemisphere. Who experienced the same sort of things I did.<\/p>\n

So, in these two episodes David has shared some of his experiences that he remembers. About going underground, and speaking with groups of diverse species of Star People. He talked about the androgynous being whose facial features he never saw, who met him at the door to the underground chamber where he spoke with the other beings. The diverse species of Star People. \u00a0He talked about beings around his bed at home.<\/p>\n

He talked this episode about his Men-In-Black experiences. I have long wondered myself if these men are in fact inter-dimensional beings of some description and certainly David\u2019s bedroom experience would tend to support that theory. How vulnerable would you feel after experiencing something like that? Yeah. You would not feel safe anywhere.<\/p>\n

We also talked briefly about coming Earth changes. These were not mentioned to scare anybody. But they are a part of most experiencers learning on board the ships. About how we need to better look after our planet. How she is a living being, a different form of life to us, but absolutely a life form regardless. And how humankind is destroying her. How she needs to go through her own personal growth and development, as we all do. This is something that is deeply impressed on us all. And for you, experiencers out there who are listening to this episode, it is highly likely that you all, also, are feeling this sense of things heating up \u2013 for want of a better word.<\/p>\n

I did cut a large portion of that part of the conversation out, because I don\u2019t wish to create fear in people. It will however, be available for patreon members to listen to from the members page of the podcast website www.walkingtheshadowlands.com. Should they wish to listen to it. Along with a number of other cuts that didn\u2019t make the actual episodes for one reason or another. David and I talked for almost two hours, and it was a pleasure talking with him. Such an easy man to talk with.<\/p>\n

If this episode\u2019s brought up any memories and issues for you, then you can always contact Suzy\u2019s UFO experiencers support team at www.communicatorlink.com<\/a>\u00a0 Or, if you want to talk with me about your experiences or memories, you can email me at shadowlands@myyahoo.com<\/a>. Or, through the podcasts website contact page www.walkingtheshadowlands.com. Just be kind to yourself, and know it is ok to remember, and you most definitely are not alone in your experiences.<\/p>\n

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